Joe Clement talks with Peter Frase about the desirability of working less, the possibility of the shorter work week, and the nature of wage and other labor. They discuss the productivity and problems of wage labor and the value of what is known as "free time"; the varied possible meanings of "full employment"; and the need for collective struggles to change the balance of power in the labor market. They touch on Kathi Weeks' book on The Problem with Work
, and the importance of unwaged and immaterial labor. Joe mentions his interview last week with Anna Coote, available here: https://kboo.fm/content/towarda30hourworkweek
. Frase is an editor at Jacobin Magazine
and a graduate student in sociology at the CUNY Graduate Center.