Guests  Dr. Roger Fouts co-founder of  The Chimpanzee and Human Communication Institute in Ellensburg, Wa. and author of the book Next of Kin: My Conversations With Chimpanzees and Matt Rossell of In  Defense of Animals join host Linda Olson-Osterlund to discuss the ethics of bio-medical research on non-human Primates. OHSU's  controversial National Primate Research Center in Beaverton, Oregon is planning to expand their site.